Curse

HigherMinion · Jun 17, 2010, 08:37 PM // 20:37

With all of Anet's hard effort to make these elite areas; surely they'd be all FOR having more people able to admire them and complete them with more ease? I agree elite weapons shouldn't be tradable

Just to piss everyone off. It would atleast make tormented items more prestigious.

Cuilan · Jun 17, 2010, 09:51 PM // 21:51

There needs to be a way to trade a Tormented Focus for an Armbrace of Truth. Till then I think DWG should be left as is.

Spiritz · Jun 17, 2010, 10:38 PM // 22:38

From parts ive read ive had to laugh - why do ppl have to cry at almost everything in gw.
First we had the crying that doa was dying - then the crying that its so hard to pug in doa ( still ongoing ) and now crying over dwg.
As in many other cry posts the answers are always the same .
If you dont like it -
stay away / go in your own team with friends or guildies and run your own build .
Having a gd cry over on a forum only shows ppl you cry a lot ( no offence but thats how it looks to ppl ).
Oh but it affects the economy - thats bs , who sets the prices for stuff thats non npc buyable ???
We do - not anet , so whos to blame for an item costing 40e ?
I know lets stop these cryers and anet make all weapons/mods/insc buyable from npcs for 1k and be the end of it.
Wow now all cryers cry that their 30+ e ambraces are worth a whopping 1k and why - coz they lost money thru their crying.
When new minis come out - i dont see many cry posts that dhuum costs so much not about how a mini bear costs too much.
Its a game , its not real life ( unless your a rmt ) so who cares ?

*runs off to find a place to hide from they cryers backlash*
ps - when we do something better than others its fine but when others do it better - we cry ... human nature ?

Volo · Jun 17, 2010, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by vader

You say that DOA is "supposed to be the hardest area in the game" and you complain that DwG makes it too easy for noobs but you don't seem to have a problem with your guild doing HM DOASCs in less than an hour. If DOA is "supposed to be the hardest area in the game" as you say, how does clearing it in less than a hour in HM justify that? Are you saying that these speed clears don't use any gimmick builds?

DoAsc uses gimmick build but only a few guilds can run DoA hm under a hour. Also those gimmick builds arent as easy to use as DwG and requires alot of time, effort and knowledge to polish the runs unlike DwG where you can grab anyone from any class.

they will nerf dwg, its only a matter of time, will they nerf DoAsc? maybe but thats up to Anet to decide

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

ps - when we do something better than others its fine but when others do it better - we cry ... human nature ?

how is DwG better than DoAsc??? it pug friendly but thats all...brainless bars and slow runs

own age myname · Jun 17, 2010, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Volo

how is DwG better than DoAsc??? it pug friendly but thats all...brainless bars and slow runs

Ffs. How many times do I have to say this. Most PUGs still can't play DWG. Try joining a group, and record your ratio of good teams...

doomfodder · Jun 17, 2010, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by Travaail

Destructive was glaive is far too overpowered for normal mode and allows people to do mindless domain of anguish runs with no more skill required than ursan.

needs to be nerfed.

Based on the DwG meta today... we all agree that NM (with FULL Cons), DoA is doable in 90 min or less (without noobs) and very few deaths (if any). Hard to say that means its over powered. If your looking for an NM DoA challenge using DwG, try it WITHOUT cons. You'll be lucky if your DwG pug can clear 1 zone... LOL

Dervish Kid · Jun 17, 2010, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Lol @ the idiots who typed "/signed" Go do DoA in HM and cry about DwG. SMFH @ the OP complaining about a skill that is useful in NM. Must be mad because he's a war with 20 energy haha. Lame Op's with lame threads.. Where are teh mods????

Volo · Jun 18, 2010, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by own age myname

Ffs. How many times do I have to say this. Most PUGs still can't play DWG. Try joining a group, and record your ratio of good teams...

idk i have done like 3-4 runs than quit... failed 1 cuze we had 1 aotl and the hb left in gloom
the other runs were around 1:20h

ManlyMan · Jun 18, 2010, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Anet will never consider nerfing something subpar like DwG cause of DoA *NM* , its slow, its mindless, and easy for people to use, but its slow, and pretty much not used anywhere else, and its fails alot of the time too, and can't really be used in HM effectively at all and even then its EVEN SLOWER.
OP must have made this thread cause he's not a rit primary and too many groups laughed at him? I donno, but yeah. Keep doing /signed, not that it'll help, never gonna happen. DwG is meta, but mediocre.

also @ people raging in this thread

u mad?

Volo · Jun 18, 2010, 01:08 AM // 01:08

ok first ursan was just as slow if not slower than dwg nm, never tried hm but im sure if ppl tweaked the builds around im sure that dwg would be doable in hm. they nerfed ursan a team build that is slower than dwg so i dont see why they wont nerf dwg

and if you read my earlier post dwg is usable everywhere, ppl just decide not to use it

ps : they also nerfed 600/smite something that's also slow and mindless

Balistic Pve · Jun 18, 2010, 01:34 AM // 01:34

DwG has brought armbraces prices from 35e down to 25e in less then a few weeks.
When armbraces prices go down to 15e, don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as DoAsc.
/signed.

Ruthless Life · Jun 18, 2010, 01:39 AM // 01:39

The point of this thread as far as I can tell is to make the rich even more wealthy, and the poor in poverty. Ectos have always been the standard for trade, armbraces are just used to measure more than 1 ecto. Having tormented weapons more available to newer players of the game is actually beneficial since they will keep playing the game to get armbraces so their characters can look cool, as well as fill their Hall of Monuments for GW2.

You should be asking for a nerf to SH, SF, Keystone, or pretty much anything you could use to spike with. Pretty much anything with the right combo of skills will kill targets, but the AoE ones are by far most effective.

Also most pick up groups in Domain Of Anguish are doing spikes in Normal Mode and only getting gems in minimal amounts compared to experienced HM runs coordinated by guilds to farm armbraces (ie. sub hour runs).

definately /notsigned since this is nothing more than an attempt at a money grab.
(also the amount of DoA guild players posting 'signed' here is kinda amusing xD)

The Brother Of Nika · Jun 18, 2010, 02:04 AM // 02:04

tbh nerfing dwg is pointless i mean u can compare it to ursan but it is still bad compared 2 a good run that a highend guild can get, i mean don't get mad cuz the main way of u makin money has gotten weaker the few ppl ig that have never had more than 30e can finaly make sum money 2 support the titles they want and can achieve it more easily. you still make more money in a shorter amount of time. Ectos went up for the lone reason that uw got nerf, if anything they will nerf doa as a area like uw if it is being overly farmed like smrt game developers should do but it is whatever. This isn't me flaming its just that u are making a unneeded update. Think about it when Sf wasn't perma and how u farmed doa b4 very slow and lame, But u made a huge amount of money because gems were worth so much cuz u couldn't rly farm it unless ur beast mode. so tbh its another phase that all elite areas go thru, u can try and get dwg nerf but tbh if u want 2 make pve more bala than u would nerf sf as well, bcuz of the fact its still sumwat over powerd 2 the lvl where areas can be done 30-1hr quicker than if u ran sumthing thats bala, just my thoughts but yeh i /sign bcuz i wanna see whats gonna be abused next.

Spiritz · Jun 18, 2010, 09:49 AM // 09:49

Volo - i mean in general - eg you did doa in 1hr using xxx build and happy at what you did till mr x comes along using a build that does it faster = then you would cry. Thats what i mean .

Arduin · Jun 18, 2010, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Ursan has brought shard prices from 3k down to 1k in less then a few weeks.
When shard prices go down to 500g, don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as FoWsc.

SF has brought ecto prices from 8k down to 4k in less then a few weeks.
When ecto prices go down to 3k, don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as UWsc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balistic Pve

DwG has brought armbraces prices from 35e down to 25e in less then a few weeks.
When armbraces prices go down to 15e, don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as DoAsc.
/signed.

I even made you all a template, just copy paste and insert what's appropriate.

[SKILL] has brought [VALUABLE MATERIAL] prices from [X] down to [X] in less then a few weeks.
When [VALUABLE MATERIAL] prices go down to [X], don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as [FLAVOR OF THE MONTH SPEED CLEAR].

own age myname · Jun 18, 2010, 01:54 PM // 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balistic Pve

DwG has brought armbraces prices from 35e down to 25e in less then a few weeks.
When armbraces prices go down to 15e, don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as DoAsc.
/signed.

Aww...someone mad because their virtual items are worth less? I feel sorry for you.

Improvavel · Jun 18, 2010, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balistic Pve

DwG has brought armbraces prices from 35e down to 25e in less then a few weeks.
When armbraces prices go down to 15e, don't QQ to us for you not signing this.
Also, if you look at the sheer wording of ELITE area, then you'd know it'd be only for Elite players and those that sense to do a run with screwing it up.
Just having the word, PUG every where demeans the idea of an "elite area"
As for the other elite areas, I heard they're somewhat hard, just not as hard as DoAsc.
/signed.

OH NOES!

Here comes the MYTH of the "ELITE" word.

ELITE MISSION doesn't mean ELITE PLAYER ONLY! ELITE MISSION means a MISSION THAT IS HARDER/SPECIAL compared to regular MISSIONS.

ELITE PLAYERS play against other ELITE PLAYERS for MONEY! REAL WORLD MONEY! Not against stupid AI for CRAPPY IN GAME BITS!

If it meant "ELITE PLAYER" it would say so!